Comments on: Ben Sims Hates Mnml http://infinitestatemachine.com/2007/12/14/ben-sims-hates-mnml/ the real shit for those who know Wed, 07 Jan 2009 03:34:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Ronan http://infinitestatemachine.com/2007/12/14/ben-sims-hates-mnml/#comment-626 Ronan Fri, 21 Dec 2007 04:25:03 +0000 http://infinitestatemachine.com/2007/12/14/ben-sims-hates-mnml/#comment-626 glad someone said it. different styles are good for different reasons....what a shocker. glad someone said it. different styles are good for different reasons….what a shocker.

]]> By: ilya http://infinitestatemachine.com/2007/12/14/ben-sims-hates-mnml/#comment-625 ilya Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:44:39 +0000 http://infinitestatemachine.com/2007/12/14/ben-sims-hates-mnml/#comment-625 It's foolish to just blindly bash "minimal". Point at what you think is the minimal "mainstream". There's no such thing. There is a whole spectrum of sound under that umbrella. I hated all that "soul" shit when disco heads used to talk all that nonsense. I still hate it. WTF is it? There's crappy cookie cutter music everywhere you look and no movement has a monopoly on quality. It’s foolish to just blindly bash “minimal”. Point at what you think is the minimal “mainstream”. There’s no such thing. There is a whole spectrum of sound under that umbrella.

I hated all that “soul” shit when disco heads used to talk all that nonsense. I still hate it. WTF is it?

There’s crappy cookie cutter music everywhere you look and no movement has a monopoly on quality.

]]> By: Ronan http://infinitestatemachine.com/2007/12/14/ben-sims-hates-mnml/#comment-620 Ronan Wed, 19 Dec 2007 00:10:32 +0000 http://infinitestatemachine.com/2007/12/14/ben-sims-hates-mnml/#comment-620 ravers invented cultural relativism? funny, i thought it was a pretty blatant cornerstone of popular culture. i don't think music sounds how you think it sounds and nothing you can say or do can prove me wrong on that. the same is true for anyone else's interpretation. there is no proof, there is no fixed sound, and there is no fixed "quality", no matter how much you wish it were the case. ravers invented cultural relativism? funny, i thought it was a pretty blatant cornerstone of popular culture.

i don’t think music sounds how you think it sounds and nothing you can say or do can prove me wrong on that. the same is true for anyone else’s interpretation. there is no proof, there is no fixed sound, and there is no fixed “quality”, no matter how much you wish it were the case.

]]> By: pipecock http://infinitestatemachine.com/2007/12/14/ben-sims-hates-mnml/#comment-619 pipecock Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:31:42 +0000 http://infinitestatemachine.com/2007/12/14/ben-sims-hates-mnml/#comment-619 you know, i hated all that "respect" shit when stupid ravers used to talk all that nonsense. i still hate it. respect this. you know, i hated all that “respect” shit when stupid ravers used to talk all that nonsense. i still hate it. respect this.

]]> By: Ronan http://infinitestatemachine.com/2007/12/14/ben-sims-hates-mnml/#comment-618 Ronan Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:06:21 +0000 http://infinitestatemachine.com/2007/12/14/ben-sims-hates-mnml/#comment-618 "its the same hyping a music for qualities that it doesnt even have when other music DOES actually have those qualities and is good" it's the same old other people having different taste to you and you being incapable of showing them respect. “its the same hyping a music for qualities that it doesnt even have when other music DOES actually have those qualities and is good”

it’s the same old other people having different taste to you and you being incapable of showing them respect.

]]> By: silent stelios http://infinitestatemachine.com/2007/12/14/ben-sims-hates-mnml/#comment-617 silent stelios Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:58:05 +0000 http://infinitestatemachine.com/2007/12/14/ben-sims-hates-mnml/#comment-617 Nice find Tom. The Frequency 7 project sounds interesting, I'd love to see it at some point. NCW mixes are always spot on, the last one is no exception to the rule. Nice find Tom.
The Frequency 7 project sounds interesting, I’d love to see it at some point.
NCW mixes are always spot on, the last one is no exception to the rule.

]]> By: pipecock http://infinitestatemachine.com/2007/12/14/ben-sims-hates-mnml/#comment-616 pipecock Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:28:03 +0000 http://infinitestatemachine.com/2007/12/14/ben-sims-hates-mnml/#comment-616 "the essence of the movement, mostly digital house and techno made by European based producers is indeed the same." but its not just that, its the same old style over substance, its the same hyping a music for qualities that it doesnt even have when other music DOES actually have those qualities and is good, etc etc. you can split hairs about efdemin, but the feeling i get from his tracks is not what i would call house music, that's for sure. "also like…everyone had a freakout about the word “minimal” being used, but now the same people seem to want to keep it alive as a pejorative." you make your bed, then you lie in it. they fucked that name's meaning up, now they dont wanna use it anymore? too bad! i wont allow them to do the same with the phrase "deep house", they will always be mnml. “the essence of the movement, mostly digital house and techno made by European based producers is indeed the same.”

but its not just that, its the same old style over substance, its the same hyping a music for qualities that it doesnt even have when other music DOES actually have those qualities and is good, etc etc. you can split hairs about efdemin, but the feeling i get from his tracks is not what i would call house music, that’s for sure.

“also like…everyone had a freakout about the word “minimal” being used, but now the same people seem to want to keep it alive as a pejorative.”

you make your bed, then you lie in it. they fucked that name’s meaning up, now they dont wanna use it anymore? too bad! i wont allow them to do the same with the phrase “deep house”, they will always be mnml.

]]> By: depletedsoul http://infinitestatemachine.com/2007/12/14/ben-sims-hates-mnml/#comment-615 depletedsoul Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:43:38 +0000 http://infinitestatemachine.com/2007/12/14/ben-sims-hates-mnml/#comment-615 Where is the love? Where is the love?

]]> By: Ronan http://infinitestatemachine.com/2007/12/14/ben-sims-hates-mnml/#comment-614 Ronan Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:21:10 +0000 http://infinitestatemachine.com/2007/12/14/ben-sims-hates-mnml/#comment-614 also like...everyone had a freakout about the word "minimal" being used, but now the same people seem to want to keep it alive as a pejorative. also like…everyone had a freakout about the word “minimal” being used, but now the same people seem to want to keep it alive as a pejorative.

]]> By: Ronan http://infinitestatemachine.com/2007/12/14/ben-sims-hates-mnml/#comment-613 Ronan Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:20:04 +0000 http://infinitestatemachine.com/2007/12/14/ben-sims-hates-mnml/#comment-613 but the music isn't the same, at all! even if you don't like efdemin (as a producer I'm 50/50 on him), you can't say he sounds like m_nus or mnml. there isn't really anything of that sound about him. the essence of the movement, mostly digital house and techno made by European based producers is indeed the same. but that's the broad essence that you hate! Within that there is room for a huge amount of change. but the music isn’t the same, at all!

even if you don’t like efdemin (as a producer I’m 50/50 on him), you can’t say he sounds like m_nus or mnml.

there isn’t really anything of that sound about him.

the essence of the movement, mostly digital house and techno made by European based producers is indeed the same.

but that’s the broad essence that you hate! Within that there is room for a huge amount of change.

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