Comments on: The Return of Pépé Bradock, The New Black Dog Album, and More….. http://infinitestatemachine.com/2008/03/05/the-return-of-pepe-bradock-the-new-black-dog-album-and-more/ the real shit for those who know Wed, 07 Jan 2009 01:16:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: substance http://infinitestatemachine.com/2008/03/05/the-return-of-pepe-bradock-the-new-black-dog-album-and-more/#comment-924 substance Sun, 06 Apr 2008 13:23:57 +0000 http://infinitestatemachine.com/2008/03/05/the-return-of-pepe-bradock-the-new-black-dog-album-and-more/#comment-924 > “Sakura Incident” was not even interesting enough from the sound samples online for me to investigate further. Give it a chance, do not miss out on it. For sure one of last years tracks, pure bliss and beauty. Just that a lot of online stores have recorded their sound files in the wrong speed, it is originally on 33. Browse some more shops, you will find the right clips somewhere. A record I would not want to miss in my collection, for me definately more precious than the still top-notch "Intriguing Feathered Creature". > “Sakura Incident” was not even interesting enough from the sound samples online for me to investigate further.

Give it a chance, do not miss out on it. For sure one of last years tracks, pure bliss and beauty. Just that a lot of online stores have recorded their sound files in the wrong speed, it is originally on 33. Browse some more shops, you will find the right clips somewhere. A record I would not want to miss in my collection, for me definately more precious than the still top-notch “Intriguing Feathered Creature”.

]]> By: detroitio http://infinitestatemachine.com/2008/03/05/the-return-of-pepe-bradock-the-new-black-dog-album-and-more/#comment-870 detroitio Sat, 08 Mar 2008 01:14:38 +0000 http://infinitestatemachine.com/2008/03/05/the-return-of-pepe-bradock-the-new-black-dog-album-and-more/#comment-870 Scott - I think that's a valid enough point. This is the sort of discussion that's missing from the 313 list and similar modern Detroit electronic music-focused places. Scott - I think that’s a valid enough point. This is the sort of discussion that’s missing from the 313 list and similar modern Detroit electronic music-focused places.

]]> By: pipecock http://infinitestatemachine.com/2008/03/05/the-return-of-pepe-bradock-the-new-black-dog-album-and-more/#comment-868 pipecock Sat, 08 Mar 2008 00:56:03 +0000 http://infinitestatemachine.com/2008/03/05/the-return-of-pepe-bradock-the-new-black-dog-album-and-more/#comment-868 <p>theo's mix of jill scott is just an edit, its not a house beat with a vocal bit laid on it. and yeah, i bought the record straight up for the reggie dokes track. i didnt even really listen to the other side until i got it in the mail, and it was just boring. i dont even know anything about the guy who made it. i didnt know anything about Trus'Me when i first head him either. i listened to a mix with one of his cuts in it, i then saw people asking for an ID of one song that they were going bananas for. i listened to it, i didnt know it, but it was also boring. then i saw it get IDed and that was the first i heard of the guy. i wish them all luck with their music, but they won't be getting money or love from me.</p> theo’s mix of jill scott is just an edit, its not a house beat with a vocal bit laid on it. and yeah, i bought the record straight up for the reggie dokes track. i didnt even really listen to the other side until i got it in the mail, and it was just boring. i dont even know anything about the guy who made it. i didnt know anything about Trus’Me when i first head him either. i listened to a mix with one of his cuts in it, i then saw people asking for an ID of one song that they were going bananas for. i listened to it, i didnt know it, but it was also boring. then i saw it get IDed and that was the first i heard of the guy. i wish them all luck with their music, but they won’t be getting money or love from me.

]]> By: Scott http://infinitestatemachine.com/2008/03/05/the-return-of-pepe-bradock-the-new-black-dog-album-and-more/#comment-867 Scott Fri, 07 Mar 2008 23:09:02 +0000 http://infinitestatemachine.com/2008/03/05/the-return-of-pepe-bradock-the-new-black-dog-album-and-more/#comment-867 detroitio - i'm not really trying to compare theo with linkwood or trusme. what i'm trying to say is that i think sometimes(and i've been guilty of this myself sometimes) is that loyalty to a certain sound or an artist can sometimes cloud judgement. If Tom really does think the Reggie Dokes track is better than RIP then cool that's up to him. I just wondered if he had no knowledge of either artist and heard both records for the first time without knowing who the tracks were by if he would say the same thing. I'll shut up now, I'm probably boring you all :| detroitio - i’m not really trying to compare theo with linkwood or trusme. what i’m trying to say is that i think sometimes(and i’ve been guilty of this myself sometimes) is that loyalty to a certain sound or an artist can sometimes cloud judgement. If Tom really does think the Reggie Dokes track is better than RIP then cool that’s up to him. I just wondered if he had no knowledge of either artist and heard both records for the first time without knowing who the tracks were by if he would say the same thing.

I’ll shut up now, I’m probably boring you all :|

]]> By: detroitio http://infinitestatemachine.com/2008/03/05/the-return-of-pepe-bradock-the-new-black-dog-album-and-more/#comment-865 detroitio Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:23:10 +0000 http://infinitestatemachine.com/2008/03/05/the-return-of-pepe-bradock-the-new-black-dog-album-and-more/#comment-865 <p><p>I think the point here is that aside from his re-edits, Theo did and and still does make pretty innovative house/techno music--his Parallel Dimensions album proves this. Omar S innovates similarly--he takes the soul/funk blueprint and adds his own synthy twistedness to it, and makes great synth driven music as a result. That would still hold true if these two weren't from Detroit imo.</p></p> <p>I think the point here is that aside from his re-edits, Theo did and and still does make pretty innovative house/techno music–his Parallel Dimensions album proves this. Omar S innovates similarly–he takes the soul/funk blueprint and adds his own synthy twistedness to it, and makes great synth driven music as a result. That would still hold true if these two weren’t from Detroit imo.</p>

]]> By: Scott http://infinitestatemachine.com/2008/03/05/the-return-of-pepe-bradock-the-new-black-dog-album-and-more/#comment-864 Scott Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:27:40 +0000 http://infinitestatemachine.com/2008/03/05/the-return-of-pepe-bradock-the-new-black-dog-album-and-more/#comment-864 Isn't Theo's version of Slowly Surely not a good vocal over a nice house beat? Admitidely it is more inventive than Linkwood RIP & WAR, though the concepts are very similar. I suppose what I'm diggin at is that I sense your devotion to all things detroit, leads you to be slightly dismissive of very similar sounding stuff from other parts of the world. Isn’t Theo’s version of Slowly Surely not a good vocal over a nice house beat? Admitidely it is more inventive than Linkwood RIP & WAR, though the concepts are very similar.

I suppose what I’m diggin at is that I sense your devotion to all things detroit, leads you to be slightly dismissive of very similar sounding stuff from other parts of the world.

]]> By: gmos http://infinitestatemachine.com/2008/03/05/the-return-of-pepe-bradock-the-new-black-dog-album-and-more/#comment-863 gmos Fri, 07 Mar 2008 13:35:52 +0000 http://infinitestatemachine.com/2008/03/05/the-return-of-pepe-bradock-the-new-black-dog-album-and-more/#comment-863 The comparison doesn't work because it's a hypothetical comparison with a non-existent record. Basically, if Theo did it, it would be different. I was already feeling he was a bit too derivative with the Trus'me records, but I still think it's quality deep music. As long as people aren't claiming he's breaking new ground or a genius, I'm fine with it. R.I.P. and W.A.R. both get 4/5 from me. He's playing a free gig in Dublin tonight so I'll be checking him out, I'll be sure to send him your love Tom ;) The comparison doesn’t work because it’s a hypothetical comparison with a non-existent record. Basically, if Theo did it, it would be different.

I was already feeling he was a bit too derivative with the Trus’me records, but I still think it’s quality deep music. As long as people aren’t claiming he’s breaking new ground or a genius, I’m fine with it.

R.I.P. and W.A.R. both get 4/5 from me.

He’s playing a free gig in Dublin tonight so I’ll be checking him out, I’ll be sure to send him your love Tom ;)

]]> By: pipecock http://infinitestatemachine.com/2008/03/05/the-return-of-pepe-bradock-the-new-black-dog-album-and-more/#comment-862 pipecock Fri, 07 Mar 2008 13:16:27 +0000 http://infinitestatemachine.com/2008/03/05/the-return-of-pepe-bradock-the-new-black-dog-album-and-more/#comment-862 why in god's name would theo do something like that? why in god’s name would theo do something like that?

]]> By: Scott http://infinitestatemachine.com/2008/03/05/the-return-of-pepe-bradock-the-new-black-dog-album-and-more/#comment-861 Scott Fri, 07 Mar 2008 11:25:33 +0000 http://infinitestatemachine.com/2008/03/05/the-return-of-pepe-bradock-the-new-black-dog-album-and-more/#comment-861 Tom - I'm just playing devil's advocate here but if Theo had laid a Minnie Ripperton vocal over a nice house beat and released it(aka RIP Linkwood) - would you have been more enthusiastic and less likely to call it derivative? Tom - I’m just playing devil’s advocate here but if Theo had laid a Minnie Ripperton vocal over a nice house beat and released it(aka RIP Linkwood) - would you have been more enthusiastic and less likely to call it derivative?

]]> By: pipecock http://infinitestatemachine.com/2008/03/05/the-return-of-pepe-bradock-the-new-black-dog-album-and-more/#comment-858 pipecock Thu, 06 Mar 2008 21:52:59 +0000 http://infinitestatemachine.com/2008/03/05/the-return-of-pepe-bradock-the-new-black-dog-album-and-more/#comment-858 "norte route" is cool, but not a solo black dog jam and also not exactly one of my all time favorites. and i have heard most of the old black dog stuff, minus some of the 12"s that were not on albums and i guess i just was too late. most of it is decent enough, but it isn't anything that i revere. that's all. scott and matador: as for the Linkwood, i feel like it is just too derivative. it is not that bad, it just sounds like a knock off of other records i have by people who have done that sound better for a long time (i feel the same way about the Trus'Me records. just because i like a lot of the same music they like doesn't mean i want to hear them copy that shit straight up! give me something more original!). it would have been alright as the inside B cut, but to give it a full side while cramming the 2 far superior tracks on the flip is pretty nonsensical to me. i am a huge fan of reggie dokes, pretty much everything i have by him is outstanding (i am only missing 2 CDs and the first psychostasia, all of which i will buy as soon as i see them somewhere!). and what is best about him is that he has his own style. it may not be the most dancefloor music out there, but it is just fucking beautiful shit. i wish more people had as much personality in their music as he does. matador, im not sure what you're smoking re: this new pepe. i played it out last night on a loud system, that shit sounded so beautiful. i mixed it into c2's mix of "domina", it's that kind of deep track. richard, you should mp3 that joint for me so i can see if it is worth getting. i saw you mention that mix elsewhere as well, but i havent heard it anywhere! i have an mp3 of the main cut and i cant even sit through it one time. “norte route” is cool, but not a solo black dog jam and also not exactly one of my all time favorites. and i have heard most of the old black dog stuff, minus some of the 12″s that were not on albums and i guess i just was too late. most of it is decent enough, but it isn’t anything that i revere. that’s all.

scott and matador: as for the Linkwood, i feel like it is just too derivative. it is not that bad, it just sounds like a knock off of other records i have by people who have done that sound better for a long time (i feel the same way about the Trus’Me records. just because i like a lot of the same music they like doesn’t mean i want to hear them copy that shit straight up! give me something more original!). it would have been alright as the inside B cut, but to give it a full side while cramming the 2 far superior tracks on the flip is pretty nonsensical to me. i am a huge fan of reggie dokes, pretty much everything i have by him is outstanding (i am only missing 2 CDs and the first psychostasia, all of which i will buy as soon as i see them somewhere!). and what is best about him is that he has his own style. it may not be the most dancefloor music out there, but it is just fucking beautiful shit. i wish more people had as much personality in their music as he does.

matador, im not sure what you’re smoking re: this new pepe. i played it out last night on a loud system, that shit sounded so beautiful. i mixed it into c2’s mix of “domina”, it’s that kind of deep track.

richard, you should mp3 that joint for me so i can see if it is worth getting. i saw you mention that mix elsewhere as well, but i havent heard it anywhere! i have an mp3 of the main cut and i cant even sit through it one time.

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