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	<title>Comments on: Dear Paxahau: This is NOT Okay. No More &#8220;Underground&#8221; Stage!!!</title>
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		<title>By: pipecock</title>
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		<dc:creator>pipecock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 02:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>seriously, even the relatively small &quot;Torino&quot; stage or whatever they called it over by Jefferson was a MUCH better vibe overall than the underground stage was! the waterfront is the best, it would be lovely to give that one to the Detroit artists but i get the feeling that that is asking wayyyyyy too much of Paxahau.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seriously, even the relatively small &#8220;Torino&#8221; stage or whatever they called it over by Jefferson was a MUCH better vibe overall than the underground stage was! the waterfront is the best, it would be lovely to give that one to the Detroit artists but i get the feeling that that is asking wayyyyyy too much of Paxahau&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: dj shiva</title>
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		<dc:creator>dj shiva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 02:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Adam Vana has actually said it best thus far.

I don&#039;t think the placement of predominantly black artists was intentionally racist, but it does smack of bad decisionmaking.  

Let&#039;s face it.  It looks bad.  Plain and simple.  Put the black peeps in the basement.  It doesn&#039;t have to be intentional to look bad, yanno?

I don&#039;t even need to say anything about the sound.  We all know.  
I just think it&#039;s an echoey concrete sweatbox.  I can handle the sweatbox part even, but add bad sound and I am done.  

Put the Detroiters on the riverfront where I can feel the breeze!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Adam Vana has actually said it best thus far.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the placement of predominantly black artists was intentionally racist, but it does smack of bad decisionmaking.  </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s face it.  It looks bad.  Plain and simple.  Put the black peeps in the basement.  It doesn&#8217;t have to be intentional to look bad, yanno?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t even need to say anything about the sound.  We all know.<br />
I just think it&#8217;s an echoey concrete sweatbox.  I can handle the sweatbox part even, but add bad sound and I am done.  </p>
<p>Put the Detroiters on the riverfront where I can feel the breeze!!</p>
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		<title>By: harpomarx42</title>
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		<dc:creator>harpomarx42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 20:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would just like to say that I was pleasantly surprised by the sound quality this time around. I didn&#039;t see any visible soundproofing, but the levels were decent and my recordings actually are crystal clear. They had a decent selection of artists there. The best bit was when most of the ravers cleared out when Theo Parrish began.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would just like to say that I was pleasantly surprised by the sound quality this time around. I didn&#8217;t see any visible soundproofing, but the levels were decent and my recordings actually are crystal clear. They had a decent selection of artists there. The best bit was when most of the ravers cleared out when Theo Parrish began.</p>
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		<title>By: Live from Movement/DEMF: Day One &#171; The Musicorium</title>
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		<dc:creator>Live from Movement/DEMF: Day One &#171; The Musicorium</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2010 06:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to a performance by local Patrice Scott, despite the fact that that it was scheduled to be in the notoriously bad &#8220;Made in Detroit&#8221; Stage.  (For those who don&#8217;t know, &#8220;Made in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: An Open Letter to Paxahau &#124; Good Music and Even Better Business</title>
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		<dc:creator>An Open Letter to Paxahau &#124; Good Music and Even Better Business</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 19:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] most successful cases are of those that are more open to share and relate to actual people. People are talking about you, but you are nowhere to be found. DEFEND YOURSELF. You guys do great work. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] most successful cases are of those that are more open to share and relate to actual people. People are talking about you, but you are nowhere to be found. DEFEND YOURSELF. You guys do great work. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Vana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Vana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 19:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Paxahau&#039;s insistence on making the DETROIT electronic music festival increasingly white and european is messed up.

However, I don&#039;t think there is an explicitly racial motive in their stage decisions.  I do think it is a form of soft racism, though.

Race is obviously a sensitive issue in Detroit, many of the progenitors of detroit electronic music are black, and many of the locals are black.   I don&#039;t think relegating the locals to the basement then is a race issue per se, but just an issue of pure idiocy.

Not to mention the fact that the underground area just sucks from both standpoints of acoustics and ergonomics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Paxahau&#8217;s insistence on making the DETROIT electronic music festival increasingly white and european is messed up.</p>
<p>However, I don&#8217;t think there is an explicitly racial motive in their stage decisions.  I do think it is a form of soft racism, though.</p>
<p>Race is obviously a sensitive issue in Detroit, many of the progenitors of detroit electronic music are black, and many of the locals are black.   I don&#8217;t think relegating the locals to the basement then is a race issue per se, but just an issue of pure idiocy.</p>
<p>Not to mention the fact that the underground area just sucks from both standpoints of acoustics and ergonomics.</p>
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		<title>By: Keep-It-Deep</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keep-It-Deep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 06:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>true that. i have come into contact with a handful of detroit based artists over the last years that have been and still are sort of underground but either dj or produce their music on a more than acceptable level. in my opinion, there should be a larger focus on the one hand on those artists that made that city what it is in electronic music and on the other hand, there should be a very large focus on all those up and coming artists as they are believed to be their heirs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>true that. i have come into contact with a handful of detroit based artists over the last years that have been and still are sort of underground but either dj or produce their music on a more than acceptable level. in my opinion, there should be a larger focus on the one hand on those artists that made that city what it is in electronic music and on the other hand, there should be a very large focus on all those up and coming artists as they are believed to be their heirs.</p>
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		<title>By: pipecock</title>
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		<dc:creator>pipecock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 00:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is what is frustrating. i understand the idea of bringing in things that people might want to pay to see to make this festival financially viable. but to me, the focus initially was and should continue to be on Detroit artists. and not just handing closing slots to Kevin Saunderson or Juan Atkins, there have been at least 2 distinct generations of Detroit artists since then that need that same kind of love shown. i swear it shouldn&#039;t be so difficult, but i guess when you just wanna throw a big rave and the way you can do that is to call it DEMF and then the city lets you charge $$$ to get into Hart Plaza, this is what happens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is what is frustrating. i understand the idea of bringing in things that people might want to pay to see to make this festival financially viable. but to me, the focus initially was and should continue to be on Detroit artists. and not just handing closing slots to Kevin Saunderson or Juan Atkins, there have been at least 2 distinct generations of Detroit artists since then that need that same kind of love shown. i swear it shouldn&#8217;t be so difficult, but i guess when you just wanna throw a big rave and the way you can do that is to call it DEMF and then the city lets you charge $$$ to get into Hart Plaza, this is what happens.</p>
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		<title>By: Keep-It-Deep</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keep-It-Deep</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 21:42:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>support!!! 

[and, no offense, but what the hell&#039;s ida engberg&#039;s place at movement detroit? =&gt; http://www.rhythmism.com/features/qa-with-ida-engberg--movement-2010. news like this really drive me up the walls]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>support!!! </p>
<p>[and, no offense, but what the hell's ida engberg's place at movement detroit? =&gt; <a href="http://www.rhythmism.com/features/qa-with-ida-engberg--movement-2010" rel="nofollow">http://www.rhythmism.com/features/qa-with-ida-engberg--movement-2010</a>. news like this really drive me up the walls]</p>
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		<title>By: Bootsy Colin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bootsy Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 20:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah never been might never make it but this is clearly total bullshit sort your life out Paxahau!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah never been might never make it but this is clearly total bullshit sort your life out Paxahau!</p>
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